Forum: Tehnici & Materiale Sarma umpluta cu aur?!

  • cristinacristea
    cristinacristea

    Stie cineva cum se numeste sarma ''gold filled" in romaneste? Cumva sarma umpluta cu aur?
    Multumesc

    04.06.2009, 05:12:52
  • elena.artistyle
    elena.artistyle

    cred ca aurita :D

    04.06.2009, 11:54:09
  • shinysmile
    shinysmile

    nu, gold filled se cheama si in romania, numai ca eu n-am vazut, cel putin nu in mag romanesti on-line. gold filled nu e acelasi lucru cu aurite - auritele sunt metal cu o "poleiala" de aur. gold filled au aurul incorporat

    04.06.2009, 14:25:10
  • DreamerGirl
    DreamerGirl

    daca analizam engleza... filled inseamna umpluta

    sarma placata cu aur e gold plated ca la sarma argintata - silver plated

    te poti orienta si dupa pret. ce e umplut cu aur inseamna ca e f scumpa si se vinde la gram :) daca e doar placata e mai ieftina...cam la fel ca cea argintata

    04.06.2009, 14:48:38
  • your.supplies
    your.supplies

    @ Cristinacristea - Mai bine lasa “gold filled” nu traduce fiindca isi pierde din inteles : ).
    Are dreptate Shinysmile, nu e totuna cu "aurit" sau "placat cu aur" .
    Invelisul de aur de pe un obiect "gold filled" poate fi de 50 pana la 100 de ori mai gros decat pe unul "placat cu aur" : )
    In cazul unui obiect "gold filled", o foitza de aur este aplicata mecanic pe suprafata respectiva, in timp ce in cazul unui obiect "placat cu aur", pe suprafata in cauza este aplicat un strat de aur, de obicei printr-un proces electrochimic de galvanizare.
    De asemenea, un obiect "gold filled" e mult mai rezistent in timp, nu-si pierde culoarea, luciul si cu putintica grija, poate sa te tina muuult si bine!
    Deci, ca sa revin la intrebarea initiala, eu una nu as traduce in nici un fel. Sa stie lumea exact despre ce e vorba. Plus ca... “umplut cu aur” e putin impropriu spus (desi e o traducere exacta, corecta si fidela) fiindca nu e chiar umplut ci...mai degraba acoperit, ca doar aurul e pe exterior, in interior e alt metal : )
    Ok, gata, am terminat !
    Zi minunata si spor in toate!!

    04.06.2009, 15:10:12
  • cristinacristea
    cristinacristea

    Multumesc mult la toate pentru raspunsuri! Asa o sa las, gold filled, n-o sa traduc in nici un fel! E mai bine asa. Pupici la toate.

    04.06.2009, 19:56:18
  • choice4all
    choice4all

    "gold filled" nu este "umplut cu aur", ci "aur umplut cu...". ca si "silver filled" ca e "argint umplut cu...". adica aurul, respectiv argintul, sunt la exterior, iar la interior e altceva. De obicei cupru, asa cum stiti si voi. Diferenta intre"filled" si "plated" consta in tehnologia de fabricatie, din care rezulta si diferenta dintre cantitatea de metal pretios care se gaseste in fiecare.
    E OK sa lasi netradus, deja stie multa lume engleza si cumparatorii sunt imformati, stiu despre ce e vorba. In plus, nu poti fi acuzata ca incerci sa induci in eroare, sa cum am vazut in ultimele zile pe un forum.

    27.04.2010, 18:15:07
  • tonycat
    tonycat

    Gold filled jewelry
    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Gold-filled jewelry, also known as "rolled gold" or "rolled gold plate" is composed of a solid layer of gold bonded with heat and pressure to a base metal such as brass. Some high quality gold-filled pieces have the same appearance as 14 karat (58%) gold. In the USA the quality of gold filled is defined by the Federal Trade Commission. If the gold layer is 10 kt fineness the minimum layer of karat gold in an item stamped GF must equal at least 1/10 the weight of the total item. If the gold layer is 12 kt or higher the minimum layer of karat gold in an item stamped GF must equal at least 1/20 the weight of the total item. 1/20 12kt GF and 1/20 14kt GF are the most common stamps found on gold-filled jewelry. 1/10 10kt is also common. Some products are made using sterling silver as the base, although this more expensive version is not common today.

    "Double clad" gold-filled sheet is produced with 1/2 the thickness of gold on each side. 1/20 14Kt double clad gold-filled has a layer on each side of 1/40th 14Kt making the total content of gold 1/20. The thinner layer on each side does not wear as well as single clad gold-filled.

    The Federal Trade Commission allows the use of "Rolled Gold Plate" or "R.G.P". on items with lower thicknesses of gold than are required for "gold-filled." 1/60 12kt RGP designates a 12 kt gold layer that is 1/60 the weight of the total item. This lower quality does not wear as well as gold-filled items.

    Gold-filled items, even with daily wear, can last five to 30 years but will eventually wear through. The gold layer on gold-plated jewelry varies greatly depending on manufacturer, so there is no single, simple comparison. Gold-filled items are 50 to 100,000 times thicker than regular gold plating, and 17 to 25,000 times thicker than heavy gold electroplate (sometimes stamped HGE or HGP—usually found on flashy cubic zirconia "cocktail rings").

    28.04.2010, 08:43:59
  • AlexandraMoiseanu
    AlexandraMoiseanu

    Daca wikipedia zice also known as "rolled gold" or "rolled gold plate" eu m-am incurcat de tot. Dictionarul meu traduce rolled gold=strat de aur aplicat pe un metal si gold-filling=placare cu aur sau imbracare/plombare cu aur a unui dinte (se aplica traducerea in cazul de fata??) Deci "gold filled" tradus cu "umplut" nu prea ar reflecta realitatea, nici umplut cu aur, nici cu altceva. Gresesc? Eu imi pregatesc materialele pentru un magazin si mi-ar place sa scriu numele produselor in limba romana, deci cum ma sfatuiti sa scriu?

    28.04.2010, 16:37:58
  • tonycat
    tonycat

    Cand nu stiu intreb. FMG mi-a dat candva urmatorul raspuns la o intrebare asemanatoare(de fapt intrebam de marcaje):
    Gold plated items have an industry standard of .15 to .25 mils thickness of gold plating electroplated over a base metal. We are not able to provide a karat percentage on this plating, as this can vary. If the base metal is known, this will be listed

    Gold Filled items are creating by combining a layer or layers of gold to a base metal, usually brass. The metal is then rolled or drawn to the desired thickness or shape. The karat fineness is noted in the immediate item description for all items. Our gold filled beads are a 14kt gold filled, and our gold filled wire is a 12kt gold filled.

    Gold filled items are a higher quality item due to the amount of gold in the item. These can be cleaned with most polishing cloths as well to help keep the beads looking their best. We hope this information assists you.

    Din cate inteleg bijuteriile de acest fel ar trebui si marcate!
    Am vazut la MM ca sunt marcate de BNR.
    Nici aliaj nu poti sa spui ca este, nici placare, dar stratul de aur este mai consistent si tehnologia de aplicare a acestuia pe alama este complexa si permite o rezintenta mai mare in timp(asa cum explica imi aduce aminte de procedura de la foile frantuzesti de placinta)..

    29.04.2010, 12:44:02
  • tonycat
    tonycat

    Eu zic ca daca ai lucrat cu asfel de produse sa le scrii descrierea in romaneste.
    E cel mai bine. Parerea mea!
    Cu stima, TonytheCat

    29.04.2010, 12:52:15